2025 Boys ODP Teams

Where did you find the file? I cannot find it on the USA WP ODP site. Are the rosters out?

PSW looks like the favorite, but SPA, Pacific, and Coastal are quite good as well. Coastal probably has the most depth at center as both A and B Squads have quality centers

Max Kellerman is on Del Mar 16s

rosters out for all zones?

Fixed. Thank you for the heads up.

I’m not at all surprised to see Max Kellerman on Del Mar. He was part of the Poway Valley 10u team that nearly all went to Del Mar during COVID when the school district closed their pools. From that Poway Valley squad, Max Kellerman, Jack Davis, Braylen Axline, Aden-Sungwon Shin, and Eamon Bruhn all made it to PSW Red.

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A parent posted it on our Zone Team group chat.
Havent seen rosters yet.

Hi All, based on the Cadet Schedule, I think Games 8 & 19 have the wrong Dark Cap Win#s.

Game 8 should be C1 Pac Red vs Win4 (not 5)
Game 19 should be D1 Spa Red vs Win5 (not 6)

Good luck to all these brave and committed athletes.

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When will full rosters for all the zones be listed?

Two things are certain in life: that the sun appears to rise in the east and that Joe asks about rosters every five days or so :slight_smile:

Now seriously: USA Water Polo typically releases rosters about 5-7 days before the ODP Championship. I do not know if they intend to do it this year but my guess would be Yes.

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The Boys ODP Championship schedule has been posted.

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for the lazy
Boys ODP Schedule

Am I reading the Youth bracket correctly to show that the #4 seeds have no chance to be top 8?

You are correct in your conclusion.

Hmmm. If the seeding is based on prior year’s finishes, that seems unproductive.

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Respectfully, I’m not sure I agree. Years back ODP had the usual brackets, but the resulting 1-4 ranked games were generally 25-2 drubbings that didn’t help anyone. The odds of SPA Red losing to Mountain, for example, are sufficiently low to justify replacing that likely meaningless game with a different one, even though that admittedly means that MTN will not end up at Nos. 1-8. In even the usual type of bracket, the virtually inevitable loss in that first group game would mean the same thing anyway, so why not give them an extra game that’s more meaningful.

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I would have changed the entire format. Maybe there is some regional rivalry that makes these games interesting, but I would have switched to a draft format where coaches select 16 teams of roughly equal strength. This would make the entire weekend more competitive. Currently, the only close games usually start at the semifinals on the third day. A draft format would also give strong individuals from outside the four zones an opportunity to play in competitive matches.

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I’m not asking for 1 v 4 drubbings. Nobody wants that. But if 4 beats 2, they should get a chance. The 4s could play each other first with the winner moving into a 3 team bracket. I’m no bracketologist, just something to offer to the zones who already think the deck is stacked against them.

agree there should be format change. i bet a team compiled of unpicked kids from sopac with a good club coach would do well in the current format. or at least better than the 4s