We are just going to have to disregard the comment “Ala beast Boys” when you associate that with SOCAL 18s.
barin, you are new here to this chat group, and I can tell you are throwing a ‘dig’ at SOCAL, but the nucleus of SOCAL 18s has been together since the 10Us, so thank you for your input and predictions, but lets keep it objective
Hats off to Seaside’s 18u team for finishing first in Group “P” play. I didn’t think Seaside would beat Newport. Seaside plays SOCAL tomorrow. The winner of that game and the winner of the Lamorinda/SB 805 game qualify for the semifinals on Sunday.
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Is the linked document being updated at all? It’s not showing any scores for me.
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Try this link:
Three PSW teams (Shores/La Jolla/Del Mar) in the top 12 of 16u girls probably wasn’t on anyone’s bingo card, and is likely a first!
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Didn’t Bella J come over to Socal from Regency this year?
Great to see PSW coming back into form for both the boys and girls!
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How are tie-breakers determined in group play?
All teams finish at 1-1. Does a shoot-out loss hurt less and thus eliminate the goal differential?
I know Futures clearly uses the points system that gives 1 point for a loss and 2 points for a shoot-out loss. Is this the standard in JOs as well?
Newport +3
Seaside +1 - but loss was in shootout.
LB -4
= Seaside advances
I think the point that cbarrot was trying to make is Beast Boyz comprised of a group of college bound players who came from different teams to form an all star team, similar to what was done about 4-5 years ago on the boys side (team name escapes me). Though they didn’t fare as well due to lack of team chemistry, while the Beast Boyz had opportunities to play together and gel.
The player you are referring to had to leave a frustrating HS situation and probably had no choice but to go to SOCAL. More importantly, she is not a college bound player.
I do not believe that to be the case. JOs goes by World Aquatics rules which uses goal differential followed by goals scored.
@Marco how did you get your reply to include the original message you are replying to? That was a feature in WPP that made it easier to follow what folks are commenting on and something I wish WPEX would implement.
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click and drag to highlight whatever text you’d like to quote, and hit the reply button.
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I had that assumption too but here’s the scores from Group P play Newport/Seaside/LB Vikings
Looks like Newport won goal differential but Seaside advanced as 1st in P. Didn’t see any games just going by results posted.
Day 3 is always an interesting one. Looking forward to some good matchups.
I see what you are seeing. I got nothing. I may be misunderstanding something, but per the published rules I think Newport would have a complaint, or at a minimum should seek clarification.
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From the USA Water Polo website Junior Olympics section:
ADVANCEMENT
All games require a winner and loser; NO TIED GAMES! Should the game score be tied at the end of regulation time, the tie shall be broken by shoot-out. In group play, teams advance to the next round according to game points earned from game results within the group. The following point system shall be used for advancement purposes:
| Points | Outcome |
|---|---|
| 4 | Win |
| 3 | Shootout win |
| 2 | Shootout loss |
| 1 | Loss |
| 0 | Forfeit |
TIE-BREAKERS
In the unlikely case of teams tied in-game points, teams advance according to the World Aquatics tie-breaker rules, stated in the World Aquatics Playing Rules, Appendix BL
Two Way Ties - BL 9.6.3.1
If two (2) teams shall have equal points, further classification shall be established as follows:
“…The team winning the game between the two teams shall be placed higher…” (no other provisions apply)
Three Way Ties - BL 9.6.3.2
If three (3) or more teams shall have equal points, further classification shall be established as follows:
- BL 9.6.3.2.1 : The results among the tied teams shall determine which team is placed highest.
- BL 9.6.3.2.2 : If at any time during the application of the procedure set our in this BL 9.6.3.2, the number of tied teams is reduced to two (2), then BL 9.6.3.1 shall be used to determine which of the two (2) remaining teams is placed higher.
- BL 9.6.3.2.3 : “The comparison shall be made upon first, the points of the games among them, next the goal difference, and next, based upon goals scored.”
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Point system is first per rules: 2025 NJO Tournament Rules - Google Docs
Seaside 6 (4 win + 2 shootout loss)
Newport 5 (4 win + 1 loss)
LB 4 (3 shootout win + 1 loss)
Seaside advances as 1st.
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Was it Coozy Boys? For some reason that name sticks
lol close. It was cozy
Yes, it was Cozy Boys.