# 2025-2026 14u Boys Club Season **URL:** \ **Category:** Club - Boys\ **Created:** [September 12, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774 "2025-09-12T18:44:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Kickout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Kickout](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/Kickout)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 5:46pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/131 "2025-11-11T17:46:44Z")
I’m not sure how much this influenced or contributed to the formation of the SCAR team, but this year Zach Graper took a coaching job with Indiana after being the club director for Palos Verdes and the boys and girls coach at PV High School. Robert Lynn is also a coach at PVWPC and the coach at Chadwick (in Palos Verdes). Palos Verdes faces both geographic (isolated) and socioeconomic (expensive) challenges that limits the number of kids that feed into the club and high school programs. If you look at the PV club website, the following call to action is prominently displayed on their home page: “ **Come and join our families from Manhattan Beach, Hermosa, Redondo, Torrance, Palos Verdes, San Pedro, Long Beach and beyond!”** It’s clear that as a club, they are casting their net wide and far, perhaps to maintain viability and perhaps to be more competitive. One truth is that 14u is always seems to be a little unpredictable, especially in the fall/winter with age movement, and kids moving to different clubs to position themselves for where they anticipate going to high school. At the end of the day, it’s a marathon and no one is getting scholarships at 14u. ---
**Author:** ![Polames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Polames](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/Polames)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/132 "2025-11-11T19:16:25Z")
I’m with you @Marco and enjoy the concept of super teams too. I get that maybe some of the traditionalists on this board don’t love the idea of athletes/parents/coaches going outside the box with the super team concept, but I think it happens in almost every other club sport and ultimately opens up opportunities. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Joe](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/134 "2025-11-11T19:31:04Z")
Would be nice to see this on the girls side ---
**Author:** ![rolled1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rolled1](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/rolled1)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/135 "2025-11-11T19:36:51Z")
There is good and bad from super teams. When my son was in Dev ODP I remember all his team saying we should start our own club and play together all year. Now they were spread over an entire zone and were 13-14 years old without a parent coach to make it happen it would never happen. Now, sometimes you have parent coaches who can actually make it happen, Steve Carrera (Beast Boys), Wolf Wigo/Tom Davis (CIU), and I am sure there are more. The only negative I have seen is that it can upset the bubble kids who don’t get chosen to play with the elite group (More at younger ages), they will change clubs if they get upset enough. That is a risk these clubs take sending their top players to play with other top players but they are free to do so. ---
**Author:** ![JFranPolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@JFranPolo](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/JFranPolo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/136 "2025-11-12T19:58:38Z")
Agree, but In all fairness, Brevin Kass has grown and improved exponentially since the summer. I saw him at Academy in the winter and could see the potential. However, after watching him at Cousineau Cup his game has definitely elevated. There have been many players that get cut at the Development, Cadet, and even Youth level that turned out to be great college players and even Olympians (Alex Obert). Every kid develops differently. It’s not where you start it’s how you finish. ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex004/user_avatar/waterpoloexchange.com/marco/32/290_2.png) [@Marco](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/137 "2025-11-12T21:51:31Z")
> [@JFranPolo](#): > > There have been many players that get cut at the Development, Cadet, and even Youth level that turned out to be great college players and even Olympians (Alex Obert). Alex Obert’s birthday: December 18th I understand the frustration of parents and their kids with Q4 birthdays who are under the impression their kids don’t get a fair shot at ODP. Statistically, they aren’t wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Polames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Polames](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/Polames)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/138 "2025-11-12T21:59:21Z")
Maybe they can put together a super team comprised of kids with Q4 Birthdays….lol ---
**Author:** ![H20polomom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58956e/32.png) [@H20polomom](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/H20polomom)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/139 "2025-11-17T22:48:52Z")
Anyone’s kid participate in recent ODP Camps at the development level? (I think most are in 14U so sorry if I am posting in the wrong category.) Any thoughts or has anyone received a reply yet? ---
**Author:** ![NCWP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/839c29/32.png) [@NCWP](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/NCWP)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/140 "2025-11-18T01:33:37Z")
My son was at a Development camp this past weekend. I don’t think any lists would have come out at this point if you were at a Development camp in California. I know the zones outside of CA historically have their teams way ahead of the California zones, however. ---
**Author:** ![PoloFan74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b38774/32.png) [@PoloFan74](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/PoloFan74)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/141 "2025-11-18T01:47:15Z")
We were also at a Development ODP camp in California and I don’t think any decisions will be made until after all of the zone camps are complete, which isn’t the case in our particular zone. ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex004/user_avatar/waterpoloexchange.com/marco/32/290_2.png) [@Marco](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 6:55pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/143 "2025-11-18T18:55:40Z")
> [@NLM](#): > > Kind of lame for those 8 to get strung along honestly. It is a watch list and a head start. There are different coaches and different heads with different views, but most I’m familiar with view ODP as a pipeline. The evaluation event, at least for SPA and PSW, is four hours of team scrimmages halfway to the format they’ll see at ODP Zone Championships. For those who receive invites to the evaluation but aren’t quite ready, it is not only an opportunity for coaches to see them versus bigger, stronger kids, but also an opportunity for those kids to see how ODP Championships will work for when they are ready. Of those at the SPA evaluation who did not get selected to SPA Red or Blue, Brenner Dawson, Ethan Lee, Kyson Carrera, and Van Johnston were selected to represent SPA at ODP the following year. PSW leans even harder into the idea of ODP being a pipeline. Of those not being selected out of the 2024 evaluation event, Grayson Legg, Jason Robinson, Noah Dammann, Simon Vasquez, Dylan and Wyatt Buckley made the zone team the following year, with Dylan and Wyatt receiving invites to NTSC. I do think those ten SPA/PSW kids and their zones benefitted from them having a chance to get in the water a year early rather than being completely left out, which would have happened if zone coaches just selected the oldest, most developed kids in the zone to win a zone championship. ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex004/user_avatar/waterpoloexchange.com/marco/32/290_2.png) [@Marco](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/145 "2025-11-18T23:03:03Z")
Of the 10 non-selected-in-their-first-year players I mentioned, half of them are Q4 birthdays. One more has a terrible JO birthday. ---
**Author:** ![waterpolo12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/779978/32.png) [@waterpolo12](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/waterpolo12)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 2:01am UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/146 "2026-01-08T02:01:37Z")
I heard a rumor that two best players from Trojan moved to PV. Also herd SCAR is not reforming but, if the Trojan kids moving is true PV will be a very talented superteam. Can anyone double check. ---
**Author:** ![PoloFan74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b38774/32.png) [@PoloFan74](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/PoloFan74)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 3:01am UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/147 "2026-01-08T03:01:13Z")
I suspect the 14u landscape/distribution of athletes in San Diego may see some changes soon, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Michael](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/148 "2026-01-10T21:05:51Z")
I see PV and Shore Aquatics are in D2 (14u) of Futures. Did they not merge? ---
**Author:** ![CT2CAWaterPolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@CT2CAWaterPolo](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/CT2CAWaterPolo)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:05pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/149 "2026-01-30T16:05:52Z")
What are the best 14U matchups to watch this weekend at Kap 7? Other than Newport are there any top teams missing? ---
**Author:** ![Willis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/74df32/32.png) [@Willis](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/Willis)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:10pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/150 "2026-01-30T16:10:17Z")
Most significant team to watch is NorCal. The goalie was phenomenal at 2024 JOs. If it’s the same team as 2024 they might be better than Newport. ---
**Author:** ![PoloFan74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b38774/32.png) [@PoloFan74](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/PoloFan74)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:37pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/151 "2026-01-30T16:37:12Z")
I wish this weekend were looking to be the litmus test that Kap7 International has historically been, but with the PSW zone pulling several kids for an ill-timed ODP '“practice” and several other teams with half their rosters out all week with the flu, I’m not sure how much we are going to learn about the 14u landscape this weekend. Nonetheless, it’s a great opportunity to get eyes on some teams that aren’t in Orange County every weekend, for sure! ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Michael](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/152 "2026-01-30T18:56:57Z")
The two best 14u teams at Kap7 are La Jolla and Mission. Not sure if they’ll have their full rosters due to ODP. NorCal did have a phenomenal 12u goalie in 2024. A definite game changer. NorCal did play in a tournament in Southern California a few months ago and were middle of the pack. If they were missing more than their goalie, they could be a team to watch. ---
**Author:** ![PoloFan74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b38774/32.png) [@PoloFan74](https://waterpoloexchange.com/u/PoloFan74)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 11:10pm UTC](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774/153 "2026-01-30T23:10:54Z")
NORCAL appears to have a team entered in the 14u platinum division of Kap7 and another team entered in the 14u platinum division of the SoCal tournament this weekend. Do we know which one is their top team? [Previous page](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774.md?page=6) [Next page](https://waterpoloexchange.com/t/2025-2026-14u-boys-club-season/1774.md?page=8)